{"id":9874,"date":"2025-11-21T10:07:52","date_gmt":"2025-11-21T15:07:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sdgnews.com\/?p=9874"},"modified":"2025-11-21T10:07:54","modified_gmt":"2025-11-21T15:07:54","slug":"cop30-palaus-xavier-matsutaro-small-island-states-climate-emergency","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sdgnews.com\/fr\/cop30-palaus-xavier-matsutaro-small-island-states-climate-emergency\/","title":{"rendered":"Live at COP30: Palau Says Small Island States Are \u2018Already Living\u2019 the Climate Emergency"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>SDG News\u2019 Heeta Lakhani interviews Palau\u2019s National Climate Change Coordinator Xavier Matsutaro on the stalled MutiR\u00e3o package, presidency-led text drafting, and why Small Island States say 1.5\u00b0C is now a matter of survival \u2014 not theory.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bel\u00e9m \u2014 As rain began to fall over the COP30 venue, the summit\u2019s tempo shifted into the tense, uncertain rhythm that often defines the midpoint of Week 2. Delegates clustered in corridors, phones buzzing with delayed text updates from the presidency. Inside this atmosphere, <strong>SDG News Chief Correspondent Heeta Lakhani<\/strong> spoke with <strong>Xavier Matsutaro<\/strong>, Palau\u2019s Head of Delegation and National Climate Change Coordinator, about where negotiations stand \u2014 and what is at stake for small island states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/DRQ9Yv3gLUO\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\" style=\" background:#FFF; border:0; border-radius:3px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width:540px; min-width:326px; padding:0; width:99.375%; width:-webkit-calc(100% - 2px); width:calc(100% - 2px);\"><div style=\"padding:16px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/DRQ9Yv3gLUO\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" background:#FFFFFF; line-height:0; padding:0 0; text-align:center; text-decoration:none; width:100%;\" target=\"_blank\"> <div style=\" display: flex; 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font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/reel\/DRQ9Yv3gLUO\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\">A post shared by Heeta Lakhani (@heeta_lakhani)<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote>\n<script async src=\"\/\/www.instagram.com\/embed.js\"><\/script>\n\n\n\n<p>Matsutaro, measured but firm, offered a window into the slow-moving machinery of the MutiR\u00e3o package, the presidency\u2019s backroom drafting process, and why Small Island States now describe themselves not as frontline nations but as communities <em>already living inside<\/em> the climate crisis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-we-re-at-the-point-where-we-re-talking-substance-but-still-waiting-for-the-text\"><strong>\u201cWe\u2019re at the point where we\u2019re talking substance, but still waiting for the text.\u201d<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Asked where the talks stand, Matsutaro outlined the complexity behind this year\u2019s negotiations. Four agenda items proposed by parties never made it formally onto the agenda \u2014 instead, they were folded into various workstreams now overseen by the COP30 presidency.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He listed them:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>NDCs and the response to the synthesis report<\/strong> \u2014 essential for closing the 1.5\u00b0C gap<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Article 9.1 finance<\/strong> \u2014 public finance from developed to developing countries<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Unilateral measures<\/strong> \u2014 trade restrictions that some parties say are blocking progress<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>BTRs (Biennial Transparency Reports)<\/strong> \u2014 crucial because they show what countries actually delivered against their commitments<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Up until two days ago, countries were debating the <em>substance<\/em> of these issues. Now they are arguing over how to move them forward in a balanced way across agenda items.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u201cThere has to be harmonization between the presidency consultations and the workflow happening in the workstreams,\u201d<\/em> he said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>A misalignment in one track risks derailing others.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By yesterday, the first iteration of the text was produced. Countries provided their feedback. Now everyone is waiting for the update.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cIt was supposed to be circulated at 7 or 9am. Then I saw 12. And now\u2026 nothing. It\u2019s 3pm. We\u2019re still waiting.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-how-the-presidency-drafts-text-and-why-it-matters\"><strong>How the presidency drafts text \u2014 and why it matters<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Lakhani pressed Matsutaro on who is actually drafting the new version of the MutiR\u00e3o text.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He explained the behind-the-scenes process rarely visible to the public:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u201cIt\u2019ll be a combination of the presidency and the UN Secretariat\u2026 sometimes consulting co-facilitators of the thematic areas.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>If needed, the presidency may call in negotiating blocs to get clarity, especially where red lines conflict. This helps them write bridging text.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It is a delicate negotiation choreography \u2014 one that determines what ends up in the final MutiR\u00e3o package.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-what-sids-need-in-the-mutirao-package\"><strong>What SIDS need in the MutiR\u00e3o package<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>When asked what a strong outcome would look like from a small island perspective, Matsutaro didn\u2019t hesitate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u201cFor us, the NDC is a top priority. We need ambition for 1.5\u00b0C not to be breached.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>The latest scientific assessments are clear, he said:<br>the world is way off track, and course correction is urgent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He added:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The BTR has legitimacy and must be included.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Article 9.1 finance and unilateral measures matter deeply to specific groups of countries.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Some parties want unilateral measures to dominate the entire outcome \u2014 but that cannot happen.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u201cYou have to have all four. They\u2019re interlinked. They\u2019re not mutually exclusive.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>The task now is to balance them in a way that protects the collective priorities of vulnerable countries \u2014 especially the Alliance of Small Island States (AOSIS).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-we-re-beyond-the-front-lines-we-re-already-living-in-it\"><strong>\u201cWe\u2019re beyond the front lines \u2014 we\u2019re already living in it.\u201d<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>At the end of the conversation, Matsutaro spoke with a seriousness shaped by lived experience, not abstract projections.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cI think the narrative that we\u2019re on the front lines \u2014 we\u2019re way past that. We\u2019re already living in it.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>He listed recent impacts:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Hurricane Melissa<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Last week\u2019s typhoon that devastated the Philippines and struck Palau<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Sea levels that once spiked once a decade now rising twice a month<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Coral reef systems oscillating between \u201cmassive bleaching\u201d and fragile resilience<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These ecosystems, he said, form the foundation of Palau\u2019s livelihoods. Losing them would be catastrophic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u201cShould the narrative be mission 1.5 or rescue 1.5?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Either way, he said, emissions cuts must accelerate <em>immediately<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-two-days-left-and-hope-is-still-on-the-table\"><strong>Two days left \u2014 and hope is still on the table<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>As the interview ended, Lakhani noted that only two and a half days remain until COP30 closes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Matsutaro nodded.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>\u201cAs long as we keep hope and keep at it, I think we stand a chance.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>He offered to return for a follow-up once the next text drops \u2014 assuming the presidency releases it in time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>RELATED STORIES: <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/sdgnews.com\/fr\/juan-carlos-monterrey-says-cop30-must-deliver-an-end-to-deforestation\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Live at COP30: Panama\u2019s Climate Envoy Juan Carlos Monterrey Says COP30 Must Deliver an End to Deforestation<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/sdgnews.com\/fr\/sdg-news-heeta-lakhani-interviews-iisd-policy-advisor-jeffrey\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Live at COP30: IISD Policy Advisor Jeffrey Qi Warns Adaptation Finance Gap Could Reach $319 Billion<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SDG News\u2019 Heeta Lakhani interviews Palau\u2019s National Climate Change Coordinator Xavier Matsutaro on the stalled MutiR\u00e3o package, presidency-led text drafting, and why Small Island States say 1.5\u00b0C is now a matter of survival \u2014 not theory. 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